Challenge Engine Information

From Original Catalogs

 

The following information was gleaned from several different Challenge Catalogs.  If you happen to have a catalog that is not one of these listed, I would love to be able to see scans, copies of the pages that pertain to the engines in it.  This helps to determine when changes were made to the lineup.  Pictures will be scanned in and added as time permits.

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Check out the Challenge Parts List Page for catalogs scans covering Engines and Challenge Equipment.

Check out photos of the Challenge Factory and Windmills.

There has been some discussion about the connection between Challenge and Taylor Vacuum Engines.  Click Here to compare in side by side photos.  

 

Challenge Catalog #??

Challenge Wind Mill and Feed Mill Co.  States that it has been in the windmill business for over 27 years.  1894 is written in pencil inside the front cover.  Catalog is 132 pages long.  The following two images are on page 130 and 131.  They are for a Lambert Side Shaft Engine.   These scans were taken from a photocopy of the pages of an original catalog from the Batavia Historical Society.

lambert130.jpg (185929 bytes) lambert131.jpg (189141 bytes)

 

 

Challenge Catalog #??

States that it has been in the windmill business for over 27 years.  Since Challenge started in business in 1867, at the earliest, this would be 1894 or later.  There are 2 pages  of write up on engines.  Hot tube is mentioned as a self starting feature.  "press small lever forward". 

Style Pictured HP Speed Pulley Engine Weight Price
None 2 280 8x6 1040 $175
None 4 260 11x8 1800 $300
None 7 250 15x10 2688 $425
None 10 220 20x8 4010 $500

 

 

Challenge Catalog #45

Featured Company Name change from Challenge Windmill & Feed Mill Company to Challenge Company.

 

Cat45_144.jpg (214555 bytes) (p144) Introduction to Challenge Gasoline Engine
Cat45_145.jpg (94468 bytes) (p145) 4 HP Vertical Tank Cooled
Cat45_146.jpg (85198 bytes) (p146) 2 1/2 HP Vertical
Cat45_147.jpg (114289 bytes) (p147) 1 1/2 HP Vertical Tank Cooled
Cat45_148.jpg (90703 bytes) (p148) 1 1/2HP Vertical Self Contained Gasoline Engine
Cat45_149.jpg (86053 bytes) (p149) Self Contained Horizontal Pumping Engine
Cat45_150.jpg (121885 bytes) (p150) Self Contained Horizontal Engine 

2-3 HP Tank Cooled

Cat45_151.jpg (170525 bytes) (p151) Gasoline Engine

5, 8, 10, 12 HP

Cat45_152.jpg (134643 bytes) (p152) 5HP Gasoline Engine - Geared For Pumping
Cat45_153.jpg (86110 bytes) (p153) 5hp Pumping Engine
Cat45_154.jpg (144902 bytes) (p154) Portable Engine
Cat45_155.jpg (163340 bytes) (p155) Information and Price List (as shown below)
Style Pictured HP Speed Pulley Floorspace Engine Weight Price
Horizontal Tank Cooled 2 350 8x6 40x30 690 $160
Horizontal Tank Cooled 3 300 10x6 42x30 1000 $200
Horizontal Tank Cooled 5 280 11x8 64x42 1890 $300
Horizontal Tank Cooled 8 260 15x11 52x79 3600 $425
Horizontal Tank Cooled 10 250 20x12 52x81 3700 $500
Horizontal Tank Cooled 16 230 24x12 58x86 4400 $600
Self Contained
Vertical Tank Cooled 1-1/2 350-600 5x5 30x30 425 $120
Vertical Tank Cooled 2-1/2 350-400 9x8 32x32 800 $160
Vertical Tank Cooled 4 350-400 12x8 60x36 1200 $220
Horizontal Tank Cooled 2 350 8x6 78x40 800 $160
Horizontal Tank Cooled 3 300 10x6 78x42 1100 $200
Self Contained with Pump Jack
Vertical Tank Cooled 1-1/2 350-660 5x5 60x30 585 $135
Horizontal Tank Cooled 2 350 8x6 88x34 1070 $175
Horizontal Tank Cooled 3 300 10x6 88x36 1350 $215

 

Challenge Catalog #48

No engines were pictured, but there was a 2 page write up on their engines.  It requested that you ask for information on them.  Quotes in the book from customers dated from 1905 and 1906.

 

Challenge Ad from 1908 Magazine - Stationary Air Cooled Pumping Engine

AirCooledChallengeAd1908.jpg (221432 bytes)

 

Challenge Catalog #51

Featured Horizontal and geared base engines in sizes:

2 1/2, 3 1/2, 4 1/2, 6, 9, 12, 15  - All were tank cooled.

 

Challenge Catalog #62

Featured engines 1 1/2 - 16 hp

Style Pictured HP Bore Stroke Speed Pulley Crankshaft Diameter Flywheel Diameter Flywheel Weight Engine Weight Code Word
Hourglass 1-1/2 3-1/2 5 500 3x4 1-5/16 16 42 275 Vamp
Hourglass 2 4 5 450 5x4 1-3/8 20 58 400 Van
Hourglass 4 5-1/4 8 400 9x8 1-7/8 26 135 850 Vend
Hourglass 6 6-1/4 8 350 11x8 2 32 185 1150 Venom
Square Hopper 8 6-3/4 11 300 15x20 2-1/4 42 400 2200 Venue
Square Hopper 10 7-1/2 13 280 20x10 2-3/4 48 526 3200 Verb
Tank Cooled Horizontal 12 8-1/2 13 250 20x10 3 52 600 3400 Veil
Tank Cooled Horizontal 16 9-1/2 15 240 24x12 3-1/4 56 775 4400 Vent

Engine Trucks pictured:

Engine Wheel Diameter Face Weight with Trucks
1 1/2hp Hourglass 12" 2-1/2" 365 
2 hp Hourglass 12" 2-1/2" 485
Trucks Alone     90
1 1/2hp Hourglass on 2 Wheel Hand Portable 8" wheels with sockets to place on skid ends   331
4hp Hourglass 12" Front, 15" Rear 2-1/2" 970 - Hand Portable
6hp Hourglass 12" Front, 15" Rear 2-1/2" 1320 - Hand Portable
4hp Hourglass Included 14x6 Clutch Pulley and seat tongue   1400 - Portable
6hp Hourglass Included 20x6 Clutch Pulley and seat/tongue   1600 - Portable
       

 

Challenge Catalog #72

Around 1913 or later based on the customer quotes printed.

Style Pictured HP Bore Stroke Speed Pulley Crankshaft Diameter Flywheel Diameter Flywheel Weight Engine Weight
Headless 1 3-1/4 4 550 3x4 1-1/4 1-1/4 14 235
Hourglass 1-1/2 3-1/2 5 500 4x4 1-5/16 16 42 275
Hourglass 2 4 5 450 9x8 1-3/8 26 58 400
Hourglass 4 5-1/4 8 400 11x8 1/3/4 32 135 850
Hourglass 6 6-1/4 8 350 11x8 2 32 185 1150
Square Hopper 8 6-3/4 11 300 15x10 2-3/8 42 400 2200
Square Hopper 10 7-1/2 13 280 20x10 2-3/4 48 526 3200
Tank Cooled Horizontal 12 8-1/2 13 250 20x10 3 52 600 3400
Tank Cooled Horizontal 16 9-1/2 15 230 24x12 3-1/4 56 775 4400

 

Catalog # ?????

Anthony Hordern & Sons Ltd - Australian Dealer in Challenge Equipment.  These scans are from a fellow engine collector in Australia.

AHbuilding700jpg.jpg (151987 bytes)  
engine700jpg.jpg (236762 bytes) Challenge Gas Engines available in 2, 4, and 6 HP Sizes
Windmill700jpg.jpg (167701 bytes) Challenge Windmills also available
Challenge nameplates700jpg.jpg (95940 bytes) Dual tags shown from a 6hp.

 

 

Challenge Catalog #82

Featured 4 different engine sizes along with a full line of other equipment.  Scans from catalog in my personal collection.  (Please note, these scans are in the 150-215k size for easier reading)

82_factory.jpg (84842 bytes) p. 2 Factory Drawing
82_03.jpg (161416 bytes) p. 3 Listing of Engine specs as shown below.
HP Bore Stroke Regular Pulley RPM Crankshaft Diameter Flywheel Diameter Flywheel Weight Shipping Weight Floor Space Occupied Distance between Anchor bolts
1-1/2 3-1/2" 5" 6x4 475 1-3/8" 20" 48 lbs 300 33x26 18x8
3 4-1/4 6-1/2" 8x6 450 1-9/16" 22" 70 lbs 395 28x34 21-3/4x8
5 5-1/4" 8" 10x8 400 1-3/4" 26" 140 lbs 900 34x51 34x9-3/8
8 6-1/2" 10" 14x8 350 2" 32-1/2" 190 lbs 1050 36x54 42x9-1/2
82_04.jpg (81549 bytes) p. 4 Challenge Engine showing working parts.
82_05.jpg (75085 bytes) p. 5 Image of Gas Engine
82_06.jpg (153113 bytes) p. 6 Image of Kerosene Engine
82_07.jpg (205231 bytes) p. 7 Write up on Kerosene Engine
82_08.jpg (176452 bytes) p. 8 1 1/2 & 3hp Engine Details
82_09.jpg (166826 bytes) p.09 5 & 8hp Engine Details
82_10.jpg (169562 bytes) p.10 Hand Portable Engine Specs
82_11.jpg (161276 bytes) p. 11 5 & 8hp Horse Portable Engine Specs
82_12.jpg (167238 bytes) p. 12 5 & 8hp Portable Sawing Outifts
82_13.jpg (194490 bytes) p. 13 1-1/2 & 3hp Kerosene Engine
82_20.jpg (184314 bytes) p.20 Challenge Pumping Unit No. 3 - Stationary and Portable - Uses 3hp Challenge Engines
82_21.jpg (150546 bytes) p. 21 Challenge Pumping Unit No. 4 - Uses 5hp Challenge Engine

 

82_22.jpg (140351 bytes) p. 22 Challenge Pumping Unit No. 5 - Uses 1-1/2 and 3hp Challenge Engine
82_23.jpg (157843 bytes) p. 23 Challenge Pumping Unit No. 7 - Uses 1-1/2 and 3hp Challenge Engine
82_28.jpg (162408 bytes) p. 28 Challenge Hoisting Outfit No. 1 - Uses 1-1/2, 3, and 5hp Challenge Engines - Hourglass Pictured
82_29.jpg (161297 bytes) p. 29 Challenge Hoisting Outfit No. 2 - Uses 5 or 8hp Challenge Engines - Hourglass pictured
82_221.jpg (140512 bytes)  
82_222.jpg (179634 bytes)82_223.jpg (201834 bytes) Parts Breakdown for Hourglass Engines s/n 2000-6000
82_224.jpg (192302 bytes)82_225.jpg (209648 bytes) Parts Breakdown for Hourglass Engines s/n 6000-10000
82_226.jpg (187544 bytes)82_226g.jpg (176768 bytes)82_227.jpg (222004 bytes) Parts Breakdown for Challenge Gasoline and Kerosene Engines

 

Challenge Catalog #90

Featured 1 1/2hp Dishpan for $90, 3,5,8 hp Flat top hoppers with Wico EK magneto's

 

Challenge Catalog #92 - 1929

Pumping Unit No. 5
Challenge Pumping Units (Unites 8-12)
Engine Parts and Sizes
1 1/2hp Dishpan Engine

Stationary Engines 3, 5, 8hp
Kerosene Engines with Throttling Governor
Portable Sawing Outfits

5HP and 8HP

Engine Cart
Portable Cement Mixer (Dishpan Engine)
Hoisting Outfit

No. 1 and 3

Hoisting Outfit

No. 1S and 3S

Hoisting Outfits

No. 2 and 2 1/2

   
   
   
   
Part number listings in back refer to Serial Numbers 26000 & up for Gas engines and 20,000 & up for Kerosene.
Style Pictured HP Bore Stroke Speed Pulley Flywheel Diameter Engine Weight Price
Dishpan 1-1/2 3-1/2 4-1/2 400-550 4x4     $60.75
Flat Top  Hopper 3 4-1/4 6-1/2 450 8x6 22 440 $113
Flat Top  Hopper 5 5-1/2 8 400 10x8 26 900 $198.50
Flat Top  Hopper 8 6-3/4 11 340 14x8 32 3/4 1295 $307
                 
                 
                 
Special Outfits    
  HP Price
Portable Saw Rig w/Flat Top Hopper 5 $378.50
Portable Saw Rig w/Flat Top Hopper 8 $498.50
  For Kerosene Add $8
Portable 2 Cubic ft. Cement Mixer 1 1/2 Dishpan $150
Hoisting Outfit #1 w/Flat Top Hopper - Wico EK 3  665 lbs $171
Hoisting Outfit #3 w/Flat Top Hopper - Wico EK 5  1125 lbs $314

 

 

Price Lists with Dates

Catalog referred to Date on price guide Form #
54 March 1910 279
54 March 1910 281
54 Sept 1, 1910 333
72 Feb 1, 1917 570 -26
82 July  26, 1920 750 -20d
90 July, August, Sept 1925 884
92 April 1, 1930 none - 30a
92 May 1934 - 1 1/2hp Dishpan, 3-5-8hp also pictured 1073 - 34a
     
Catalog #41 "Water Supply Equipment"  - 71st Anniversary - A small air cooled engine (like Briggs & Stratton)  is shown on a pumpjack  
Catalog #68 Wood and Steel Tanks - Hourglass Engine is pictured on p.32  
Catalog 90 Date as June 1, 1925 printed on page 3  
     
     

 

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